, friendly investment environment, cut regulations that has helped to make businesses grow and employment drop -- unemployment drop in ohio. so look, there's going to be an arm wrestling contest over who should claim credit. i think that this is going to mean that other issues will keep into the equation. and i think the president hags made a fundamental mistake in taking on the catholic church and religious liberty across a lot of faith groups in the state. >> now governor strickland, you know what it's like to go down to defeat in ohio. it of course happened to you in 2010 with john kasich. what kinds of messages and lessons do you think the obama campaign needs in order to win in the buckeye state? >> well, i think people trust president barack obama. i don't think they trust mitt romney. i mean, this is a guy who had a swiss bank account, investments in the cayman islands. said he enjoyed firing people. talked about his wife's two cadillacs. then we saw this videotape where he really talks in the most d d about -- people who are working really hard not making enough money to pay feder